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Portia
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Hello Fellow Fumies,
At APJ we have a Saturday Question. Everyone gets to chime in with an answer, chat with other responders and it’s a fun event each week. Taking sides never means taking offence and everyone keeps it respectful and light, even though we can sometimes trawl the depths.
The idea is you’ll see it on the weekend or chime in through the week. Hopefully you will come back regularly and see if anyone has responded to your comment and you can reply to them. The aim is to generate real conversation and connection even though we are scattered around the globe.
Over 100 responses I will draw a Scent Sample Pack (from my collection)
This week:
Sample Pack
- L’Insomnuit by Piguet
- Loud Amber Rose by Montale
- Blanche Immortelle by Atelier Cologne
- Ilene by Diptyque
- Mandarine by L’Artisan
Last Weeks Winner: Matty
eMail me at (portia underscore turbo at yahoo dot com dot au) with your address please
Saturday Question: Which House Best Represents Fragrant Luxury To You?
All of us have such different definitions of luxury. What house makes us feel like we’ve made a luxurious purchase? How do they do it? What is your luxe trigger? Are you most inspired be heredity like the Guerlain, DIOR and CHANEL lines. Is it the expensive packaging like Vero Profumo, Fueguia 1833 or Cartier. What about the juices ingredients, like in Roja Dove, Parfum de Nicolai or Bogue; do they play a role? Is it the unavailability like UĖRMÌ, 19-69 or Map Of The Heart or the almost bespoke, small batch, limited run indies like Mandy Aftel, DSH Perfumes and Fort & Manlé. Whatever floats your luxury boat, we want to read about it. Don’t just tell us what but give us a why.
My Answer:
By far the most luxurious brand for me to buy is Neela Vermeire Creations. Opening the NVC plastic and touching the purple box, picking up the bottle and spritzing a new acquisition is one of my fragrant lifes great luxurious joys. Knowing I have a bottle and can now spritz to my hearts content, WOO HOO!
I know that Bertrand and Neela have this fraught battle every time to release a perfume. It has often been repeated that Mr Duchaufour says she is his most exacting customer and that each scent takes more mods than any other brand. I also know that NVC juices cost up to 7 times what most independent multinational sellers include. The bottles are so different to anything else offered and are designed by the best in the business Pierre Dinand. Their packaging has been a constantly evolving quest for beauty, luxury and strength. Lastly, and maybe most importantly, I know Neela to be a perfectionist with a vision who puts heart and soul into creating something unbelievably special. The only thing that could make the brand more luxurious to me is if they did bath products to match their fragrances.
This is a tough question for me , P!!!!
I guess personally Chanel and Dior and Guerlain don’t represent luxury to me because back in the late 1970s and early 1980s they were not so exclusive and could be bought for a reasonable amount of money at local department stores. I wore many many many fragrances from these fine houses back then as a teenager/young adult and I was far from the epitome of a “luxurious woman”. In those days I don’t remember there being “exclusive” lines or “prive” or limited editions being churned out by these houses.
I guess for me what I would consider luxury are the bottles that I treasure from indie and artisanal lines like 1000 Flowers, St. Clair Scents and Sonoma Scent Studio. They are well thought out, well crafted with love and attention and are not mass produced so not as easy to come by. I am a very simple woman in my old age and for me this is luxury.
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Good call Brigitte,
1000 Flowers are stunning and the few of SSS I tried were excellent also. I can totally see why this is your luxury.
Portia xx
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and Congratulations to Matty!!!!!!
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Thank you Brigitte….but I’m having a problem getting in touch with Portia. I’ve E Mailed but it keeps bouncing back. I’ve also used the contact form but no reply. I don’t really know what else I can do. I wouldn’t want Portia to think I was ignoring my win. I’m also thrilled about this because I never usually win anything X
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Are you using the underscore between Portia’s first and last name? it’s this _ ……the upper case symbol on the top row of the keyboard next to the number zero…..not the dash (-) but the underscore (_). How do I know this? because the first time I tried to email Portia six years ago I had NO idea what an underscore even was so I had to google it! Hope this helps. And also, don’t forget the “au” after the yahoo dot com
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Thank you for your reply… Yes I am putting in the correct E Mail address.. I checked a couple of times that I was doing it right. I’ve had a reply from Portia on one of my replies to a comment, so I’ve mentioned trhat I’m trying to get in touch. Hopefully Portia will see that.
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There are so many super luxury houses out there, and still i would go with Amouage. Even if the presentation is kinda simple in comparison with other houses, imho Amouage has his own thing and charm with those classic bottles. Also the scents are really unique and refined, it screams luxury in my eyes. Other mentions would be House of Oud and Guerlain Collections Exclusives (those bottles are pure love).
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Excellent choice! Amouage, started by the King of Oman because it’s where ancient perfumery started and he wanted his kingdom remembered for creating the finest. How cool is that? There is even speculation the three wise men may have come from the Oman area.
So glad someone chose Amouage Alen,
Portia xx
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OOO I did not know this! learn something new every day on APJ!!!
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And to this day they take their personal grooming and perfuming very seriously. My daughter lived there for a short time a couple of years back. If you threw a stone it would hit the window of a perfume shop. Her eyes were out on stalks while she was there.
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“her eyes were out on stalks while she was there”…oh Cassie, your wit just completely makes my day 🙂
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😂I’m glad to make someone smile.
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HA! How fabulous.
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I’m going old school with Chanel, although Brigette consicley points out compelling reasons why she has chosen otherwise.
I think over the years Chanel has produced consistently good if not great fragrances. Very much appreciated is their refusal to follow fragrant trends. They stay in their classical lane without veering too far out of it. Nevertheless they manage to move forward giving a clear nod to evolution by injecting their scents with a modernity that keeps them at once fresh and relevant. I like that. Bottle design again, deserves cudos. Elegant, simple and chic. Finally a comprehensive bath/body line rounds out their profile proving to me that Chanel is the epitome of classic, never-out-of-fashion, timeless, luxe style and scent.
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I think many folks would associate Chanel with luxury. They are very classic and very classy.
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I think so too 😉
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Jinx! I owe you soda, Brigitte: I called Chanel’s bottles classy and then I read your comment 🙂
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ha! i will take that soda 😉
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Don’t forget to remind me when I come to the US one day 🙂
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Diana- I won’t let you forget this-LOL!
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The quality of Chanel’s glass is outstanding, and the simple shapes they’ve chosen for all of their perfumes look very classy.
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Agreed! Agreed!
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The first name that popped into my head was Chanel. I have this idea since my adolescence when one of my friends had a honking big bottle of No5 at the tender age of thirteen or fourteen. The fact that I didn’t actually like the fragrance did nothing to dispel the wonder of her parents buying this for her birthday or Christmas present as I knew how expensive it was. My presents consisted of something by Lentheric or Yardley, not that I was complaining at all. (She also had her own ensuite bathroom. Her folks had pots of money😮).
Chanel have always produced quality fragrances and the addition of their body products have cemented the idea firmly in place. Their velvet body oil is especially luxe.
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I will exclude Gabrielle from this big idea of luxury because it’s just too boring for words. They should quietly push it off the counters and into the nearest bin. Just my opinion 😉 It probably has its fan. Somewhere that’s not here.
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Oh yes, Gabrielle is rubbishy. Sincere apologies to Gabrielle lovers, for many things 🤭
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and now y’all are really making me WANT to try Gabrielle-LOL!
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Try it Brigitte! Try it! Only your skin can turn stink into a magical concoction of olfactory delight. We’re counting on you! Take one for the team! You can do this! We know you can! Go B! Go!
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Oh and congratulations to Matty on your win. Enjoy your goodies.
Ok, I’m out of here, I promise 😀
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LOL!
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Thank you Cassieflower. I’ve sent a more detailed reply to Brigitte as I’m having a problem getting in touch with Portia X
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One house that focuses on Fragrant Luxury is Roja Parfums. I don’t own any FB and no FOMO either because there are plenty of other luxury houses whose perfume line I enjoy (Chanel, Guerlain, Hermes, just to name a few). If you were to ask me 4-5 years ago, I probably would have named Clive Christian but nowadays, they seem to be run of the mill with too many new perfumes included in multiple launches each year.
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Hiya Hajusuuri,
Clive Christian! Yeah! Remember when their prices were the most outrageous? Now their pretty run of the mill in that way as well. I do like their crown lids.
Portia xx
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I would choose the house of Vero Kern. All her perfumes are complex and elegant – they are relatively rare, and having to strive for them gives them that exclusive quality. And like Neela, Vero is exacting and a perfectionist.
But what do I know – I’m just a Mito fangirl!
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Woo Hoo! Vero will be THRILLED to read that you chose her Empliau!
I’m messaging her right now.
Portia xx
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Okay, Portia, I am wowed. You can do that? You know Vero – and can just send her a message? I *LOVE* her work!!! Thanks!
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I was tempted to say Chanel, because the totality of its perfume, fashion, history, couture, etc. all define luxury for me. But for fragrant luxury alone, I’ll say Jovoy Paris, for a very particular reason. I visited their London boutique this past May, and the warm welcome I received, the personal attention, the luxurious interior, the gorgeous fragrances in gorgeous bottles, the more exclusive area downstairs where I was shown the vault (!) containing huge lumps of real ambergris = LUXURY. I must write a full post about it before I forget the details!
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Wow! that sounds decadent. I always love gorgeous bottles. They do exemplify luxury. Looking forward to your future post.
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Now that does sound like a contender!
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O M G! How stellar for you! I’m jealous as all hell OH.
Now I know it’s there I’ll be sure to get myself invited.
Portia xx
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Sounds like this is a place you NEED to visit, P!!!
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Probably Chanel and Hermès for the whole shebang …. the perfume, the packaging, the wrapping up of, the ribbons, the matching bag to carry the purchase in …… always a thrill.
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What??? I was expecting Vero Kern as your answer 😉
I would agree that the Hermes packaging is stunning. But you know I actually like the Jo Malone packaging as well.
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YAY! I have shopped CHANEL with you and you’ve GIFTED me Hermès.
You’re right in my ballpark for luxury CQ!
Portia xx
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Vintage Guerlain bottles are it for me: their gold and enamel canisters are to die for. If I had to choose from the modern brands it would be Dusita parfums, Patou, maybe the House of Matriarch: I won a bottle from them, unpacking it was almost as great as wearing the fragrance itself.
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Has anyone mentioned Mona di Orio’s perfumes? They look super-luxurious.
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yes they do…both the original bottles and the new ones….I don’t have either but I do enjoy looking at them when I come across them online…I have a very very very bad case of bottle porn….but y’all already know that about me 😉
I think the MdO perfumes are also of very high quality if I am not mistaken. I think there are a few APJers that own a few bottles so I am hoping that they will chime in.
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Bottle Porn! 😂. Love that.
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Bottle Porn …..love it. I think we are all like that, even if we haven’t actually got the actual perfume in our collection
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You are probably right. But the expression Bottle Porn, isn’t that a killer! So glad I came here. Thank you Brigitte!
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Marcella- you’re welcome…looks like there are many of us suffering from this 😉
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Well, there’s worse kinds of porn to suffer from, right?
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I really love a number of the MdO, but the bottles, to be honest, at least the new ones, are a PITA. Sort of ungainly and tippy. It is hard to tell if the top is on. But I still have a few!
This reminds me of Atelier des Ors, which is trying desperately to be the most lux, and a number of the scents are great, but *really* unwieldy, bottom heavy bottles.
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That’s a shame….they looks lovely but too bad that they are impractical.
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Ain’t that a shame they couldn’t match the amazing contents with the packaging? I don’t own any of their bottles but I do love a few MdO scents.
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Yup! Guerlain would have been my second choice. Ever seen anything as gorgeous as a vintage Bacarat Shalimar bottle? Stunning!
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I think it is hysterical that this week’s Saturday question is melding into last week’s Saturday question…i think we all have luxurious bottles on our minds….
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I guess it’s part and parcel of the whole luxe experience. Mmm. I DO love luxe 👠👜🕶in many things!
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I was thinking just the same! Haha.
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HA! Luxurious bottles are involved definitely Brigitte, it’s part of the experience that makes a spritz so special. I probably should have spaced these questions a bit further apart.
Portia xx
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Nope….not at all….I love the fluidity from one week to the next on these two questions….and more opportunities for me to talk about my bottle porn 😉
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I’ve noticed that, too, Brigitte. Must be Guerlain-obsessed mind 🙂
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😉
Great minds think alike!
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Me too…..I love Guerlain.
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True. I very nearly went Mira Takla again. And I now think I should add her to this week’s list.
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Oh yes! Dusita is an excellent example!
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Diana- which HoM bottle did you win and what are your thoughts on the fragrance? At one point I was mildly obsessed with this house but never bothered sampling because I somehow lost interest.
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Same here Brigitte. Mild obsession turned to apathy when I reviewed their pricing. Ka-Ching. Ka-Ching.
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yes, the brand is definitely out of my price range at the moment!
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Yup! Same.
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I won Kazimi, it’s a spicy rose-centered (the rose reminds me strongly of rose EO which is fine by me but I know that some people dislike this kind of rose scents) scent with a hint of ginger and it’s got that Middle Eastern fragrant oils vibe. I like Kazimi even though I’m not big on Eastern-style orientals.
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That sounds lovely. I know her fragrances are all natural so I am sure there’s a beautiful rose essential oil in there 🌹🌹
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They really do smell natural, I appreciate it so much. I’m so pissed that some of the perfume brands choose to use molecules that don’t perform well or smell funny. There’s a curious example: I received a sample of Paper Passion created by Geza Schoen. The gorgous woman who’d sent it to me describes it as something quite horrible, moldy paper, perhaps (that opinion comes from a person who doesn’t like trashing even perfumes that are less than). To me it smells like a sheet of paper, and no longer than for two minutes! Go figure.
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I was quiite obsessed for a bit too. I think HoM messed with everyone’s minds just a bit. How could it not! Everything seems so metculously crafted. And their website is divine!
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PATOU Diana,
Yes, I was living their reinvention. It will be interesting to see what LVMH makes of them.
Portia xx
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My hopes aren’t high, Portia 😦
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Hmm… tricky. I am going back and forth between two approaches. Firstly, the weighty bottles, crisp tissue, be-ribboned boxes and nicely tied bags of Chanel and Hermes (Hi CQ!) with a special nod to the padded cylindrical boxes with cotton travel bags and insanely good service from the Dior Privee crew which all feels pretty fancy as part of a luxe shopping experience. Secondly, the ingredients, expertise, vision, playfulness, and sheer love that goes in to the best of the artisan/indies–Vero Kern, Slumberhouse, Bogue, Papillon, Mendittorosa, CBIHP, naming just a tiny handful–feels like the luxury is in the perfume (though most of those also have strong bottle game.) But both approaches rock the attention to detail.
I enjoy the kick from the indulgence of the first approach but my heart belongs to the latter (same with clothes, too, I think…more indies than big names.)
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I’m right with you, although I like Chanel much more than Hermès, but my heart belongs to Slumberhouse, Papillon, Naomi Goodsir, Bogue etal.
Neela Vermeire seems to hit the sweet spot of special juice and lovely packaging, so I may second Portia’s choice. I am also a huge fan of Masque Milano and unlike many, love the new bottles, even if it is all a little pricey.
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Good call Crikey.
I like both sides of the argument. Heart v Head indeed.
You name some really special Indies that I reckon are about to start ruling the roost.
Portia x
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I will ignore current era because I am not that impressed. Going back in time, it would be Shiseido for me when they used to release stuff like nombre noir and feminite du bois.
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Ahhhh Fazal,
Interesting choice.
Portia x
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As much as it pains me to say it, Chanel. Not so much for the very bland Les Exclusifs line, but their mainstream are still so aesthetically pleasing, not loud and audacious, and feel wonderful to hold. The last of the big luxury brands to hold on to class and not succumb to the ‘costs a lot to look this cheap’ chic the others have gone to.
Once Lagerfeld releases the reins, who knows where it will lead. When that happens, I will put Hermés at the top.
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Hermés = great bottles, beautiful presentation
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Chanel is out in front by a country mile so far.
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I’m a bit surprised at it topping our poll.
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Interesting Kate,
Is Lagerfeld so influential at the cosmetics counter end? I wonder. Fashion will go into deepest mourning when he goes. What will Chloe and CHANEL do? They’ll be adrift for a while I bet.
Portia x
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Who knows?? I like to think Herr Karl runs the show, cos Chanel is still seamless. I really hope the owners are grooming a worthy successor.
I am a little disappointed the POS handheld devices the SAs use are not covered in Chanel bling. *Chanel, you reading this?*
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Oh I really doubt that. There was a time, not I don’t think so anymore. Their cosmetics boutiques are always empty when I pass by. All the young ‘uns are flocking to Nars, or Sephora for their mind-numbing choice. I think the ladies who lunch may still frequent Chanel, but it seems to me that their cosmetics star has fallen.
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Hmmmm…… for sheer elegance and luxury I’d have to say Hermès. The fragrances are always so deliberate and a perfect reflection of the other side of the house; the luxe leather goods that got them started in the 1800’s. For current times I’d go with Frederic Malle’s Editions De Parfum; creating such utterly beautiful scents, always being on point, and consistently using top tier ingredients. So many keepers in their range.♥️♥️♥️ -Robert H.
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Ahhh Robert,
Two really good houses.
Both excellent quality. I love their packaging and the way they present their perfumers. So much to love about them both. TBH I could wear these two only if it ever came to that.
Portia x
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Yup, me too I suspect. Every time I wear POAL or En Passant I think “well hell…you’ll have to pry these bottles from my cold dead hands!” 😂
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Can’t argue there. I love their stuff.
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I love the Roja Dove bottles. Their window displays in The Burlington Arcade in London are fabulous.
The vintage Chanel and Guerlain bottles especially Mitsouko and Shalimar.
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If you’re a London girl Matty then do you ever go to his Harrod’s area upstairs? It is so OTT and fun to walk around.
Portia x
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Hi Portia……. No, I’m not a LOndon girl. I live in Manchester. I go to London to see exibitions. When I’ve been to the Royal Academy, which is next door to Burlington Arcade, I always stroll up and down,looking in the posh perfume shops.
I’ve been trying to get in touch with you about my win. I don’t know if you’ve received my E Mails. Could you please get in touch with me on my E Mail addy ? XX
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I’ve replied. Did you get it?
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Hi Portia
No I haven’t rfeceived a reply from you. I double checked. It’s not gone in my spam either. You could always put your reply to my question on this thread. I can take it from there. Very mysterious. X
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WOW! That is weird.
Please send me your address. We’ll give it a go, eh?
Portia x
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Ok will do. Can you let me know if you get E Mail with my address ?
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I think I will put Hèrmes as the number one, just because I think the perfumes go well with the luxury goods they sell. Perfect for those with “old money”, I would say.
Then I think the by Kilian range of perfume does flashy packaging in a luxe way, and the perfumes do seem to be of good quality.
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YAY Ingeborg,
Hermes bottles are so luxurious to touch. Like the glass is super satin or something.
Kilian! I remember the days of getting so excited about his new releases and what the packaging would be like. They were outrageous.
Portia x
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Definitely old money feel to Hermés. Van Cleef could be doing the same, but alas…
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Oh and one more. I know many people hate Profumum Roma’s square plain bottles, but I love them and also love that they come with a metal funnel and a small roller ball into which you can decant for travel. The perfumes are luxurious too! And the 18 ml travel sprays are elegant and stand on their own without the need for a special case.
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Hey Amy,
I LOVE the small Profumum Roma Travel Sprays. Perfect size.
Portia x
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I decided to answer first and then go through the previous comments to see what everybody else thought.
Since in general I consider all perfumes to be luxury, and, theoretically, if I were to love it, I could afford to buy almost any perfume (I’m not talking about those that cost thousands just because of the vessel they are presented in but most commercially produced perfumes), from this point the question I ask myself is whether I consider each particular one to be worth the price or not but if I buy it, I don’t feel like I’m buying [into] luxury.
The only perfume brand I can think of that still seems somehow different is JAR. I’m sure it’s not a single such brand, and their prices, I presume, aren’t the highest out there, but I don’t know about any other brands with similar limited distribution and general availability: just a couple of locations with no website or presence anywhere else.
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AH! Amazing choice Undina.
I forgot all about the Jar crew. Yes, if anything counts as luxurious the Jar definitely does.
Portia xx
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When you mention luxury, the first that comes to my mind is Amouage. It’s not about the price or visuals, it’s just that Amouage consistently keeps bringing great quality perfume to the market. And whether I like them or not, they have a touch of luxury surrounding them.
On the other hand I’d mention Estee Lauder because they have this easygoing luxury the American way.
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Hey Neva,
Interesting thought about Estee Lauder. Especially now that they own so much of the mass-tige offerings too.
Portia xx
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Good point in Estée Lauder, kind of casually glamorous.
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ha yes!!! Estee Lauder!!! they are indeed easy going luxury..that is a very apt description!
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Chanel is consistent luxury in my life. From the classic white box with black trim and lettering, to the beautiful classic clean-lined bottles, to the fragrance/lotion/bath gel inside. I am always thrilled to shop on the Chanel website (sadly there is no boutique in Denver), and then receive my package. I have most Chanel fragrances including the Exclusives, and display the bottles on a pretty glass tray. Tres chic! The bath gel looks very luxurious int he shower too. Runner-ups are Roja Dove, exquisite bottles and box, and Aupohorie for same reason.
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Hi there Kathleen,
Getting the CHANEL packages are the best! All that fabulously luxurious boxing etc and the CHANEL ribbon.
Yep, YUM!
Portia xx
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oh your dresser must look gorgeous with all those bottles on display! I am partial to the extrait bottles….they look lovely.
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Oh for me, all the Lutens bell jars (obviously).
All the Vintage Guerlain.
Roja Dove & Amouage.
I was thinking HoM, too. But the line seems “pure indulgence” rather than “sheer luxury.”
Loving everyone’s choices!
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